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Patrick Haney, Not a Sausage

YAWT: Yellow Alien Wrongful Termination

Wed Aug 3, 2005, 7:49 PM




Update: Formerly named "jark & spyed Same Person? deviantART Bankrupt?" More links added, more to come soon.

The Rumor Mill

The rumor mill has been going into overload since late Wednesday night after the apparent loss of °jark, one of the co-founders of deviantART, as a staff member.

What I can tell you is that I've heard one side of the story, and it's not pretty. But rather the fuel the fire that seems to be burning throughout the community, I'd like to take this opportunity to do 2 things:

:pointr: Show my support for Scott Jarkoff (aka °jark)
:pointr: Show my support for the deviantART community as a whole

What Really Happened?

There's been a lot of speculation as to what happened, why it happened, and what will happen next as a result of the sudden change in status of the Yellow Alien. A lot of you have been tight lipped about what's going on, and that's probably better than others who have been throwing out crazy ideas such as:

:pointr: "OMG! i bet °jark and $spyed are the same person!"
:pointr:jark just resigned to spite everyone else"
:pointr: "i bet $spyed is TOTALLY having °jark's baby!"

Look, the fact of the matter is this: only 2 (possibly 3) people really know the full story. Until we get more facts, your wild speculations are just causing more harm than good.

The worst part is that we've not heard any official deviantART comment yet. Why? Is $spyed waiting to discuss the topic after things cool down? Is he even going to mention it to us at all? Are there legal issues to be worked out first?

I don't have the answers to those questions, but I can tell you that we as a community deserve to know sooner or later. If no official word comes down the pipe, the rumor mill will just keep churning out planks of compressed crap until the facts roll in.

Remember The Community

Some of you are talking about leaving, some of you are outraged at how this is being handled, and others are choosing sides. I can't blame anyone who falls under any of these categories.

However, let's not forget about the community as a whole. Leaving is probably not the answer, though it may make a point. How can we complain about where the site is headed if we're not trying to do anything about it?

And when you're picking sides, don't forget that when it comes down to it, we're all artists here. You may not like what happened, or you may agree with the decision, but don't make that the reason you're here. This site is more than just the people who run it and it'll take a lot more than a fury of disagreement among staff to take it down.

Support The Yellow Alien

I've seen quite a bit of "support °jark" messages thrown about the site in the last day or so, including a signature that said something to the effect of "remove all of your deviations and support °jark!"

You do whatever it is you feel you need to do to support him, but drastic measures may not be in order yet. We still don't have all the facts.

Look, I support Scott just as much as any of you, if not more. I've known him since 1996, before deviantART was even a glimpse in his eyes. I can tell you that Scott Jarkoff may be one of the most committed, honest people I have ever met. And it hurts me to see him not working on the brainchild that is rightfully his (even if this site belongs to the community and not any one person, mind you).

Your Admins

Right now many of your fellow admins here at deviantART are in a tough place. They're stuck between two sides of an argument, of which they can't speak of, and they're being scrutinized by the community.

Do your best to be mindful of what it must be like for them right now and please do not badger them with questions, ridicule or hateful comments.

I know many of the staff here at deviantART and I can tell you that this situation is not easy for any of them. They're trying to remain loyal to the community they care about, their boss, and a co-founder who is no longer one of them, all at the same time. Think about that for a second.

My Remarks

As you can tell, I'm doing my best to tread lightly on this subject and at the same time show my support for Scott. It's not easy to do. I'm
rather annoyed at what's happened, hearing one side of the story already (and weary of hearing the other).

I think it's pretty ridiculous that the 2 co-founders of deviantART are no longer involved in the decision making process for the site. I also think that lately there has been less attention to the "community" and more attention to "how can we get people to spend money here?"

And don't even bring up the "deviantART has to pay its bills somehow!" crap, I'm well aware of that.

I'm not leaving though, regardless of how things go down. There are more important things at stake here than money or power, though those 2 things need to be addressed for sure. I'm not sure how I'll proceed to support my feelings on what happened with °jark yet, but I'll figure that one out in time.



The yellow alien has fallen....

If jark resigns from staff, what impact will it have on deviantART?



Related links for the Yellow Alien Scandal (it's not really a scandal per se, but that's the way FOX News would spin it if they were reporting on the whole thing).

I'm leaving for Connecticut in a few minutes, so if I don't reply to your comments or your request to add your journal/poll/deviation/etc., that's why. I'll be online sporatically this weekend.

Update: Thanks for all the new info! I'm still adding things, so feel free to keep sending them my way via notes, comments, etc.

PS. Don't even ask how long this took to compile.....

deviantART Staff Resignations

If you want to get an idea of what's going on behind the scenes, this should give you a pretty good one.

`Blue-Six
`brazensix :pointr: My Resignation.
`bzed
`Cassed
`dj-designs :pointr: Resignation
°euphoria :pointr: Goodbye, Yellow Alien
`jasonvelocity :pointr: Resigning
`omniomi :pointr: My Resignation
`radiositysg
`twosilverstars :pointr: resignation...
`velociraptor
`Zeros-Elipticus

deviantART Journal Entries:

%achfoo :pointr: My Sincere Thoughts
~Aeon-Lord :pointr: Love thy admin
`alyn :pointr: My stance
=anjules :pointr: Hypocrites

From °arc, Another Original Staff Member
°arc :pointr: Jark's departure

~argo :pointr: News
=ashwynmayr :pointr: end of an era?
°attila :pointr: °Jark & 2005 Philadelphia devMEET
=b0x0rz :pointr: °jark or $jark?
=babysista :pointr: The Ubiquitous Question:
=baka-chan :pointr: The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
=baka-chan :pointr: No deviations plz.
=baka-chan :pointr: and we keep moving
@bakka :pointr: $Jark
`bananasontoast :pointr: I have no words...
=Barbiedoll :pointr: Support Matteo too, grab a stamp!
=bellchild :pointr: Speechless.
=Bluecatdemoness :pointr: Time moves on
*blackzer0 :pointr: deviantART: Virtual? Reality.
@bluespeed9 :pointr: Jark.

°jark's Mother
`bookdiva :pointr: Jark--The heartbeat Goes On...
`bookdiva :pointr: Jark's Involuntary Removal
`bookdiva :pointr: Jark Did Not Voluntarily Resign
`bookdiva :pointr: Jark's Eternal Candle Flickers
`bookdiva :pointr: We Stay Focused For Jark
`bookdiva :pointr: Jark-His Involuntary Termination

`brazensix :pointr: My Resignation.
`brazensix :pointr: Community is spelt J-A-R-K
`chezza-t18 :pointr: in jark i trust.
=coxi :pointr: UPDATE: THE TRUTH (my ideas)
@crazyleafhead :pointr: Goodbye, Jark...
~Dagger13 :pointr: It will alwaysbe $Jark, no matter what they say!
^damphyr :pointr: Two Cents
^damphyr :pointr: Disgusted
=darkmoon3636 :pointr: Know that I'm pissed.
=darthmarlan :pointr: ...From Onestar...
=Destructionist :pointr: WHAT THE FUCK!?
`devilicious :pointr: DA's Founding Father
`devilicious :pointr: DO THE RIGHT THING
=devilious-red :pointr: Free Support-Jark Avatars!
=DizzyChii :pointr: EDIT: Goodbye Deviantart
`dj-designs :pointr: Resignation
~DJonasse :pointr: Listen Up
~duhcoolies :pointr: WHAT??!! JARK??!! FREAKIN' HELL!!!

°dygel Speaks
°dygel :pointr: On Why You Came Here In The First Place

+ekud :pointr: Thankyou & Goodbye.
=electricjonny :pointr: Good bye Jark, we will miss you.
~Enfero :pointr: Jark
=EnPsyane :pointr: Jark Gone?
°euphoria :pointr: Goodbye, Yellow Alien
`faithwalker :pointr: Our Founding Father
+flameturret :pointr: Featured Deviant: Scott Jarkoff [°jark]
=forevermore :pointr: on $jark gettin' the boot.
=fuhk :pointr: Join the Jark Side.
`fusionrock :pointr: The end of an era
`fuzzydemon :pointr: new bears
`Ghouldaddy :pointr: Long live the Probe...
*hakfest :pointr: arse
^halfliquid :pointr: _-_?St[ill{_-_HERE__++_+
`hempingway :pointr: :|
^hesitation :pointr: 28: Away
=howling :pointr: Devious Journal Entry
~hyacinth116 :pointr: ...what happened? *edit*
`hyper-psycho :pointr: It's not April 1, it's the downfall of deviantART.
`hyper-psycho :pointr: Life and deviantART + Must Read Update
~icore :pointr: A Sad Day ...
=ivyc :pointr: Oh captain, my captain. UPDATE

From °jark Himself
°jark :pointr: Open Cargo Bay Door, Eject Yellow Alien
°jark :pointr: Spin The Yellow Alien Saucer In Circles!
°jark :pointr: Community, Stay Focused
°jark :pointr: Involuntary Termination

`jasonvelocity :pointr: Unsolved Mysteries
`jasonvelocity :pointr: Resigning
=Jeans16 :pointr: Jark is Gone!

One of Our Most Senior Members (The 3rd is a MUST READ)
`justthorne :pointr: A Plan of Action - the bedtime update
`justthorne :pointr: Put on Probation
`justthorne :pointr: An Open Letter, re: Admin thread

=juuhanna :pointr: What the hell?!
=kamiawolf :pointr: Can we have some answers please?
=karyaazure :pointr: YOU can help fight injustice. :|
=kasumichan2003 :pointr: THANK YOU...
=KewlioMZX :pointr: Fearless Leaders...Dismissed?
*kimberley-tomorrow :pointr: Jark's New Symbol...
`krash :pointr: A day of Yellow!!!
~laprasek :pointr: W-T-F?
=Lici-Rocker :pointr: The Saddest Day In The History Of DeviantART
=lightman-73 :pointr: Jark, dA, wtf ?
`limnersphere :pointr: Diminished

Another Hugely Senior Member (2nd entry is a MUST READ)
`liquify :pointr: she will be loved.
`liquify :pointr: The Passion of the Jark

Stop Directing Your Hate Here
$liquisoft :pointr: Departure
$liquisoft :pointr: Puppy n' Stuff

`londonxpress :pointr: My thoughts on DeviantART
=lonely-constellation :pointr: Whoa~:nod::heart:
=lpetrazickis :pointr: $spyed fires co-founders $jark and $matteo

°matteo, A Co-Founder's Response
°matteo :pointr: a response from a real co-founder

~mei0023 :pointr: Support $jark!
*Mewtwofan :pointr: WTF IS GOING ON?
~michirukoshi :pointr: +A Lack of Yellow+
`mick-mick :pointr: Thank you Jark.. for everything..
~miraikazuya :pointr: Nightmares do come true
©mirrorkills :pointr: A cold day for dA.
=mizuuko :pointr: WHY JARK?!

Old and New Entries
+mkinne :pointr: the future of deviantART?
(From December 2004, where $spyed comments, "This is a really odd journal entry. Why would we lose jark?")
+mkinne :pointr: :nod::jark:

=moeffju :pointr: Jark
*mountainhawk :pointr: Devious Journal Entry
`mp3chuck :pointr: :bye:
`mp3chuck :pointr: I Can't Keep Up
`Myangelofmusic :pointr: ?F.T.W?
=MyOwnFallacy :pointr: I may be leaving DA soon.
=natasha-marie :pointr: another journal about jark
~NazoNoOnna :pointr: Jack Bauer supports Jark!
=neek-zique :pointr: [= 170 = What the Fuck?! =]
~neo-the-foxycoon :pointr: Fabric Of Reality Destroyed
`neom :pointr: A phone conversation about jark.
`neom :pointr: To all a dA, I Remember When.
`newklear :pointr: with.the.lights.out.its.less.dangerous++
+ninjabrick :pointr: :[
`niwi :pointr: Devious Journal Entry
`omniomi :pointr: My Resignation
`onestar :pointr: Let's bring back THE COMMUNITY
`phae :pointr: SadPhaeDay
`p-51 :pointr: July, 28, 2005
=Phmall :pointr: jark /*edit*/
~Phmall-iota :pointr: 30/06/05
`picard102 :pointr: Wtf is going on?
=Pr0poganda :pointr: Is it for real?
*redness :pointr: Greedy Little Ninja Bitches
~RoseImmortal :pointr: Jark De-Adminned by Traitor! NEW: Jark's Journal
*Rushy :pointr: I support Jark
=ryan-gfx :pointr: 1-week-deadline/good-people/jark
*s33r :pointr: Devious Journal Entry
*shelly :pointr: a sad day at DA
*shelly :pointr: support a yellow alien!
*ShinobiDragon :pointr: /_+__dA_lo_st_a_fa_ther_+_\
^silentkitty :pointr: Well.
=SoulManX :pointr: Jark, gone.
`splat :pointr: Hanging Up The $? (A whole string of comments were deleted, but are archived here)

From The CEO, $spyed (No mention of °matteo?)
$spyed :pointr: A Response
$spyed :pointr: deviantART is:

~sundeepr :pointr: Support Jark
`sycho :pointr: meh
=technographer :pointr: We Deserve Answers.
`the-faun :pointr: Jark
`the-faun :pointr: Goodbye deviantART
~the1bigboy :pointr: Devious Journal Entry
=theospix :pointr: TAKE DOWN YOUR DEVIATIONS
=TheHalcyon :pointr: Wicked Jarklove
~transferal:pointr: Goodbye, Jark. We'll miss you.
=TrappedChild :pointr: RIP: Now Retired, Once Beloved Adminstrator Jark
`twosilverstars :pointr: resignation...
~ViciousZen :pointr: Jarkage
`voodoo-prophet :pointr: Another one gone.
=vurtunetech :pointr: Mystery of Jark
`WallOfTruth :pointr: Edit: Please read.
`warfish :pointr: Let's just make it clear.
~WarthogDemon :pointr: Jark
~wintergal :pointr: Jark - Former Staff Member?
`y2jenn :pointr: Neither Left Behind or Forgotten
~yinlunghuang :pointr: WHAT?! Jark is no longer the admin?!
`zerocomplex :pointr: Where Art meets Bullshit
`Zeros-Elipticus :pointr: Never forget the Yellow Alien
=zhal :pointr: Jark, *sob* *sob*
`zlim :pointr: Jark

deviantART Polls:

`frail :pointr: Will you leave?
`fusionrock :pointr: Will deviantART be different without Jark heading the community development team?
`onestar :pointr: What is DeviantArt more these days?
=ryan-gfx :pointr: What do you hate MOST about the recent events?
`splat :pointr: If jark resigns from staff, what impact will it have on deviantART?

Related Deviations


:pointr: We Devart Support $Jark by =fuhk


:pointr: August 7th: TBTC by =fuhk


:pointr: all my base r belong 2 $jark by `chezza-t18


:pointr: Support Jark by =RaAnan


:pointr: Yellow Day Stamp by =Chromakode


:pointr: Thank You Stamp by ~Glomper


:pointr: why? by =toffee


:pointr: Yellow ribbon-Jark by =Fatboy72


:pointr: Goodbye Jark... by @crazyleafhead

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Thank you for this entry. I've been hesitant to read too many of these, as it is a tricky situation, and one which I am really torn about.

I've no idea waht the future will hold. Time will tell, I suppose.

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Sometimes I say "Just fuck it all," and roll back into bed


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Very well written and i know its to soon to judge spyed and other admin who might have been the reason Jark was fired or left, but i still support him, just like alot of others do.

I have to say splat this is very well written and correctly states nearly everything which has been said on the matter.
Well articulated...dignified and a nice tribute to Scott...on many levels. :hug:

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:heart: My Sissie-poo `bren
:nod::heart: °jark The Beat Goes On °matteo :nod::heart:
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Thanks for making this journal, and putting as much info as you could into it. It's so weird to see his name without the $ sign. :(

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Artist of All Trades ~
Thank you for this :salute: this is a dignified way of putting things i can see that its not easy foe everybody.
The thing is the community dose need answers to stop the rumors the long they keep putting it off the worse it will become

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if Scott tells me to stay, i'll stay.

otherwise? :daonfire:

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...but I have been penniless and homeless for too long. I must rebuild and begin paying off some of these debts.
:heart:°jark:devartonfire:
This needed to be said. Some people will the jump out of the frying pan and into the fire. As for me, I'm glued onto Scotts web page (both his own site and here on dA) to see if there's any word about what heppened. I just want the truth and for this to be sorted out. It's really damaging the community not selectively, but as a whole! :(
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"Judging soly on his DA page, hakfest is gay."
Well written Pat, alot of people needed this.

:thumbsup:

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Fin.
This was beautifully written. Thank you for being the voice of reason in all this. :hug:

And finally! "support Jark" stamps! I've been lookin for those. :)

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Jenn Lee
Copyright & Etiquette Admin
deviantART, Inc.

"I'm sorry 'bout the attitude I need to give when I'm with you, but no one else would take this shit from me."

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Journal History

Should I start becoming more active at deviantART again?

24%
22 deviants said Not if you're too busy for it
21%
19 deviants said Yes, you slacker
20%
18 deviants said Do what you've got to do
19%
17 deviants said OMGWTFBBQ!? COME BACK TO DA!
16%
14 deviants said You're not missing out on anything...

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